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Post by The Host on Jul 8, 2008 4:57:32 GMT -5
Will & Ozzy, you may post your opening statements to the Jury on why they should vote for you to win Surviving Big Brother. Jury, once both finalists have posted their opening, you may proceed to ask your questions. If you are ready, cast your vote for the WINNER in your confessional.
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Post by Willi on Jul 8, 2008 15:01:06 GMT -5
Hey everyone! Well this has been an awesome game and I've loved playing it with you guys. My goal was to play a strategic and social game while not flying under the radar like I have been known to do in previous games. Win or lose, I feel like I achieved that goal. I'm sorry if there were hurt feelings as a result of any decision or move that made throughout the game. I can assure you guys that whatever the questions you have, i will answer truthfully. I feel like I should write more, but I'm known for talking too much, so I'll end it here.
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Post by Ozzy Lusth on Jul 8, 2008 16:24:57 GMT -5
Hello Jury!
It's crazy that this game is coming to a close already when it feels like we just started this journey together not too long ago. A lot has happened since the game has begun but unlike other games I have played in everyone here has continually been friendly, polite, and civil towards one another despite what has happened in the game.
I'm happy with the way I played the game. I played as myself and didn't hold back. I competed to the best of my ability and won a total of 5 immunities and 2 PoV's. I don't think I was as social as Will but I had my Final 2 alliance with Will and my sub alliances with other players. I stayed true to all the promises I made to my alliance members even to the point at which I told them that I was voting them out.
For those of you I didn't get a chance to speak with I regret not getting the chance to get to know you. I think I was too stuck on keeping with the original Agua alliance and I think you all saw that I was set on keeping Agua together with that mistake posting in the confessional thread that was supposed to go in my diary room. After I made that error I figured I was exposed and just kept with what I had because I knew Fuego members wouldn't be too trusting of me after that.
Also, after I realized I was too big of a threat after winning most competitions I knew really the only way to survive was to continue to win. The two game turning moments for me were winning the power of vetos to save myself because honestly without them I think I would be with you guys on the jury. I ultimately only foremost trusted myself and I trusted Will as well. Our alliance which was supposed to resemble Jason and Danielle from BB3 and me winning safety for myself is ultimately where my game rested.
I look forward to answering your questions and hope to help you make the best decision you need for this important vote.
Thank you.
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Post by Ashley Massaro on Jul 8, 2008 18:56:12 GMT -5
Hello final 2! I would just like to say that each of you fully deserve to be where you are, and I couldn't picture a better final 2 of this game. I'm going to go with a very over-used question. I've seen it before, and I know I'm copying it. However, it's very informative, so here it goes.
Rank each jury member on who you would like to see in the final 2 the most, besides yourselves and your final 2 partner, of course. If you feel that Parvati should be in the final 2 over all other jury members, place her at number one. Place who you wouldn't want in the final 2 the most at number 7, etc. Also, please give your reasonig for their placements. Thanks!
*Example*
1. Parvati - I think Parvati should be in the final 2 because... 2. Natalie - I think Natalie shoul be in the final 2 because... 3. Ashley 4. Drew 5. Eric 6. Danielle 7. Amanda - I don't think Amanda should be in the final 2 because...
Just like that. Good luck you two!
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Post by Eric Stein on Jul 8, 2008 20:03:02 GMT -5
Hey guys.....it's been a few weeks since you've seen old Eric, but I promised you guys an interesting jury session so lets get this party started:
First of all, let me congratulate the two of you on making it to the final 2 in the game. I'm going to say this now, I like detailed answers. These one line answers will not cut it for me, nor do i like cliche answers. The first one of you who uses a cliche answer will have a HARD time getting my vote. Glad we understand each other.
Like Ashley, my first question is one that has been used a lot but its very informative.
Will, tell me Ozzy does not deserve to win, and Ozzy, you tell me why Will does not deserve to win. In this question, i don't wan't to hear, "He doesn't not deserve to win he played a great game," or any of that nonsense. Your not here to make a friend, you're here to make me believe you deserve to win over your opponent.
Next, Ozzy, the week of my elimination, I messaged you asking if you wanted to work together in the Head of Household competition, and you said yes. Then you eliminated me. Your reasoning was that you were gonna win that HoH and you wouldn't let anyone stand in your way. Two questions later, you were then eliminated. As you've previously said, you were in an alliance with will, and i can understand that. My question to you is: Why did you agree to work with me when you knew you were going to eliminate me?
Will, you have been one of the more social Houseguests this season. However, you didn't make much effort to get to know me in this game. Why is that? And remember, I don't want a cliche answer, so anything in the nature of communication is a 2 way street will cause you to loose points in my eyes. I know communication is a two way street but my question was why you didn't make much effort to get to know me, not why we didn't speak much in the game.
To both of you: If you absolutley HAD TO change one of your moves in the game, what would it be and why?
Then, tell me this, if you had to nullify one of the juror's votes, who would it be and why.
In conclusion, tell me why you chose to play in this game as the characters you selected (Ozzy and Will).
I will be scoring your responses to each part independent of the other parts on a point scale. Your answer to no one part will affect your score on another. In the end, the person with the highest total will get my vote. I don't know who I am voting for 100%, so this is your chance. MAKE ME VOTE FOR YOU! Remember, I like DETAILED Answers.
In the event of a tie in points, I ask you each to PM me one round of rock paper scissors. That will be your tiebreaker if the points should tie.
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Post by Ozzy Lusth on Jul 8, 2008 23:32:40 GMT -5
Hello final 2! I would just like to say that each of you fully deserve to be where you are, and I couldn't picture a better final 2 of this game. I'm going to go with a very over-used question. I've seen it before, and I know I'm copying it. However, it's very informative, so here it goes. Rank each jury member on who you would like to see in the final 2 the most, besides yourselves and your final 2 partner, of course. If you feel that Parvati should be in the final 2 over all other jury members, place her at number one. Place who you wouldn't want in the final 2 the most at number 7, etc. Also, please give your reasonig for their placements. Thanks! *Example* 1. Parvati - I think Parvati should be in the final 2 because... 2. Natalie - I think Natalie shoul be in the final 2 because... 3. Ashley 4. Drew 5. Eric 6. Danielle 7. Amanda - I don't think Amanda should be in the final 2 because... Just like that. Good luck you two! Hello Ashley. Since you asked your question first I will take yours first. 1. Of all the other jury members I would've wanted to see Parvati in the Final 2. To be honest, I believe she was the only one who was strong enough to beat me in a competition. When I raced her through the boards to win HoH the week she put me up I had a big head start since I was there on time but she ended up coming from behind and blew me out of the water. She was done while I was still on board 4 or 5. She was the best in competitions besides myself and she had what it took to win if she put her mind to it. Sadly, I believe she gave up. Also, even though I messed up and posted in a public thread I was very serious about wanting to work with her. We would've rotated immunity, pov, and HoH and would've been in complete control. If Parvati had stuck around and played the game like she had in the beginning I probably wouldn't be sitting here and she would've given me a real challenge and that's what I admire about her- the challenge. 2. The next person that I would've liked to have seen in the Final 2 would've been Natalie. From what I could gather at the time of her eviction, Natalie had an alliance with everyone without letting other people know. If other people hadn't told me they had deals with her I would've thought I was going to at least Final 3 with her because I thought we had a very strong alliance. She had me convinved she was working with me but she also made it known to me she could've swayed Ashley (the HoH at the time) to put up Will if Danielle won the PoV and used it. She also mentioned how close she was with Danielle and that she could get her to use the PoV as part of the plan. She was really playing everyone and played a very strategic game but she was also a great contributor in tribal challenges and won an HoH and protected her alliances. 3. The next person who deserves to be Final 2 would be Amanda. Amanda had her back against the wall as one of the last Fuego members standing. She won a critical PoV and took herself off the chopping block even though she was the primary target that week. She single handedly eliminated every one in that competition and deserved the PoV. She also competed strongly in HoH competitions like the plate smash. The only thing reason she's not higher up on the list is because she was inconsistent with when she was on and when she was playing the game. If she really wanted to win she would've been on way more than she had been. 4. I'm going to put you Ashley at this point on the list for being deserving of a Final 2 spot. Like Amanda, I think that you could've been more consistent with your activity in the game. You would compete in competitions but would come on very late in the competition. You were always one of the last people to be eliminated because people never thought you would come on. However, you did manage to win a VERY critical HoH and almost sent me packing. You stuck to your alliance with Will and put Danielle and I up and I applaud you for being so loyal. I really just don't feel you were a threat in the game and you were carried to the end by Will. 5. Eric i'm going to put you here. You never one a single individual competition and if you deserve to be in the Final 2 i'd say you need to win at least something. I don't know of any game changing moments you actually made. To me you were just a sitting duck waiting to be plucked. I do however think you could have easily stirred the pot and I do believe you were manipulating Natalie. I really just don't think you impacted the game at all because you had no power to do so and didn't seek to change that strategically or competition wise. 6. My dearest Danielle i'm going to put you here. You were a great alliance member and always voted how you said you would. You were a great asset to our alliance but you didn't contribute to any of the wins of our alliance and you rode our coat tails to the finals. You regret your inactivity and I really wish you hadn't been so inactive. You went MIA halfway through the game and came back and put only 50% of yourself into the game. I hope you understand. 7. Drew, you don't even deserve to be a juror. I doubt you will even read this because you haven't logged in since June 20. I hope you're going to be replaced by Roddy at least he still checks in with the game and was a pretty good player. That is all!
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Post by Willi on Jul 8, 2008 23:50:14 GMT -5
Hello final 2! I would just like to say that each of you fully deserve to be where you are, and I couldn't picture a better final 2 of this game. Good luck you two! Thank you so much Ashley! Rank each jury member on who you would like to see in the final 2 the most, besides yourselves and your final 2 partner, of course. If you feel that Parvati should be in the final 2 over all other jury members, place her at number one. Place who you wouldn't want in the final 2 the most at number 7, etc. Also, please give your reasonig for their placements. Thanks! Yikes, I swear this question is just to piss jurors off. Lol. Ok, for me, the people I would want in the final 2 are typically people that i know were playing a good game at all times. 1. I think Ashley should be in the final 2 because to me she was playing some aspect of the game the entire game. She won competitions, was a great social player and she was honest and loyal. 2. I think Natalie should be in the final 2 because I know she was playing the game from the start. Even though she tried to betray me, she was doing what she thought she had to do in order to get to the end, and i can respect that. 3. I think Amanda should have been in the final 2 because she did fight to keep herself in the game when it looked like she was in trouble. I just didn't see her fighter's instinct before then. 4. I think Eric could have been a final 2 candidate because he also tried when he was in trouble, but I didn't see much of his gameplay before then either. 5. I don't think Parvati should have necessarily been in the final 2. She was a fantastic challenge competitor, but I don't think she was worried about the social aspect of the game. Then the round she was eliminated she seemed to sort of give up. 6. I don't think Danielle should be in the final 2, because she didn't seem to be playing the game after she came back from being gone. I absolutely LOVE this girl. Voting for her was really hard. But ultimately it was because she was unable to be around particularly often that made me decide to vote against her, which she completely understood. 7. Drew, I don't think Drew deserved the final 2 because his heart was not really into this game. At least in my opinion. I don't believe he was really playing. As nice of a guy as he is, He wasn't really interested in this game.
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Post by Willi on Jul 8, 2008 23:56:39 GMT -5
She was the best in competitions besides myself.............. REALLY?!?!
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Post by Ozzy Lusth on Jul 9, 2008 0:03:10 GMT -5
Hey guys.....it's been a few weeks since you've seen old Eric, but I promised you guys an interesting jury session so lets get this party started: First of all, let me congratulate the two of you on making it to the final 2 in the game. I'm going to say this now, I like detailed answers. These one line answers will not cut it for me, nor do i like cliche answers. The first one of you who uses a cliche answer will have a HARD time getting my vote. Glad we understand each other. Like Ashley, my first question is one that has been used a lot but its very informative. Will, tell me Ozzy does not deserve to win, and Ozzy, you tell me why Will does not deserve to win. In this question, i don't wan't to hear, "He doesn't not deserve to win he played a great game," or any of that nonsense. Your not here to make a friend, you're here to make me believe you deserve to win over your opponent. Next, Ozzy, the week of my elimination, I messaged you asking if you wanted to work together in the Head of Household competition, and you said yes. Then you eliminated me. Your reasoning was that you were gonna win that HoH and you wouldn't let anyone stand in your way. Two questions later, you were then eliminated. As you've previously said, you were in an alliance with will, and i can understand that. My question to you is: Why did you agree to work with me when you knew you were going to eliminate me? Will, you have been one of the more social Houseguests this season. However, you didn't make much effort to get to know me in this game. Why is that? And remember, I don't want a cliche answer, so anything in the nature of communication is a 2 way street will cause you to loose points in my eyes. I know communication is a two way street but my question was why you didn't make much effort to get to know me, not why we didn't speak much in the game. To both of you: If you absolutley HAD TO change one of your moves in the game, what would it be and why? Then, tell me this, if you had to nullify one of the juror's votes, who would it be and why. In conclusion, tell me why you chose to play in this game as the characters you selected (Ozzy and Will). I will be scoring your responses to each part independent of the other parts on a point scale. Your answer to no one part will affect your score on another. In the end, the person with the highest total will get my vote. I don't know who I am voting for 100%, so this is your chance. MAKE ME VOTE FOR YOU! Remember, I like DETAILED Answers. In the event of a tie in points, I ask you each to PM me one round of rock paper scissors. That will be your tiebreaker if the points should tie. Hi Eric. To answer your first question, Will does not deserve to win this game because he has been nice and friendly to everyone. Like I said in my opening statement, Will and I dubbed ourselves the Jason and Danielle alliance from BB3. I was the Danielle and did all the dirty work and protected him. Remember when Roddy was voted out? I was the one who fabricated a story saying that you, Eric, and Drew were in an alliance and that Roddy was the bigger threat not Will. I went out of my way to save Will and got us to the finals by taking all the hits along the way. I don't recall anyone saying they wanted to get Will out but I sure as hell know people were gunning for me. I had to play a much harder more competitive game to get myself to where I am whereas I feel Will didn't work nearly as hard. For both the times I was nominated, I won the PoV and saved myself. For every tribal council where I could have been voted out I had immunity around my neck. Will doesn't deserve to win because he was nice to you or friendly with you. The winner deserves to win because they played the game the best and I believe I played a much better game than Will. For your second question, I agreed to work with you even though I knew I was going to eliminate you because you sent me that PM before I got the first question correct. Of course I'm going to say I'll work with you for that competition because if I didn't respond you would have eliminated me immediately and by saying yes I knew I wouldn't be eliminated by you if you got answers right. I had to wait until I had the first opportunity to eliminate you and when I did I took the opportunity because you were the only one on at the time and because I didn't trust you because we never spoke and you told me you were going to go after Will first and I knew I couldn't let Will get eliminated because of our alliance. Also, I want you to know I did not throw that challenge and got out because I honestly answered incorrectly. I really wanted to go on to win it and would've nominated you. If I had to change one of the moves in the game that I made it would be voting Jonathan out and keeping Daniele around. Jonathan would have made for a much better game and didn't deserve to go. He actually competed very hard in that Tribal Immunity challenge whereas Daniele did NOTHING and still got to stay. I was very pissed she contributed nothing and got to stay while a player who was competing and player hard was paying the price. At that point in the game it was a numbers game and I needed Daniele, Danielle, Will, and Natalie to further me in the game. If I had to nullify one of the juror's votes it would Drew. But because I don't even consider him a juror because of his inactivity and lack of commitment to the game I would choose to nullify Ashley's vote. I didn't talk to her maybe more than 1 or 2 PMs and I know she's probably a slam dunk vote for Will because of the relationship they built. She probably also feels she owes Will for taking her as far as she did. Without Will, Ashley would've been gone WAY earlier. Lastly, I picked Ozzy because he was a dominator in challenges on Survivor and yet he lost against his jury and was eliminated prematurely by Parvati on Fans vs Favs. I tried to play the game as he did: win challenges and trust nobody. I won 7 challenges and never left my self complelely vulnerable. I always had something around my neck whether it be the PoV or immunity. I didn't need to depend on an alliance. I really ultimately depended on myself. In the Cook Islands Ozzy won 6 of the 8 individual immunity challenges which is like me winning ALL 3 indiviudal immunities of our game. I really was upset when Ozzy lost Fans vs Favs again and thought I would do this and win this game for him.
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Post by Willi on Jul 9, 2008 1:01:07 GMT -5
Hey guys.....it's been a few weeks since you've seen old Eric, but I promised you guys an interesting jury session so lets get this party started: I wouldn't expect anything less Eric First of all, let me congratulate the two of you on making it to the final 2 in the game. I'm going to say this now, I like detailed answers. These one line answers will not cut it for me, nor do i like cliche answers. The first one of you who uses a cliche answer will have a HARD time getting my vote. Glad we understand each other. Sounds good to me. Thank you for the congrats Will, tell me Ozzy does not deserve to win, and Ozzy, you tell me why Will does not deserve to win. In this question, i don't wan't to hear, "He doesn't not deserve to win he played a great game," or any of that nonsense. Your not here to make a friend, you're here to make me believe you deserve to win over your opponent. Let me start by saying I have HATED this question for years. Who am I to say that someone doesn't deserve to win the game? What qualities of gameplay makes one deserving or underserving? Does an honest player deserve to win more than the dishonest player? Says who? It comes down to personal values. The only reason I could see for anyone not deserving to win is that they didn't play the game at all, they were still lying to EVERYONE on the jury, or they were completely and utterly disrespectful to people in the game (Dick BB8 style). Ozzy didn't do any of those. I'd love to say Ozzy doesn't deserve to win because he was duplicitous, but so was I, so there goes that theory. I'd like to say it was because Ozzy didn't play a social game, but you don't have to play a social game in order to deserve to win the game. I suggested ozzy get on board to what we considered the Danielle/Jason BB3 alliance, but does it being my idea make me more deserving? **edit- I was trying to be nice with my answer, but since Ozzy went for my jugular I guess I should return the favor** Ozzy shouldn't win because he admits that he was the challenge guy. Which obviously saved him. Being fantastic in challenges is great, but it can only get you so far. I didn't have to rely on my challenge winning ability to get me to the end. There were plenty of rounds where I wasn't immune but I did just fine. And that is because I was playing social aspect of the game and he wasn't. Will, you have been one of the more social Houseguests this season. However, you didn't make much effort to get to know me in this game. Why is that? And remember, I don't want a cliche answer, so anything in the nature of communication is a 2 way street will cause you to loose points in my eyes. I know communication is a two way street but my question was why you didn't make much effort to get to know me, not why we didn't speak much in the game. To be honest Eric, I really feel like I did try. With almost every housegetaway I sent messages in the beginning of the game. The responses from most of the messages and the activity in the house pretty much helped me determine who I wanted to work with in the game. With people like Danielle, Ashley, and Ozzy, my messages sparked conversations which built relationships that grew into alliances. I don't have the messages I sent you since they're too old, but I have all 3 of the messages you sent back. Needless to say, I didn't feel like you were that interested in talking to me, so I sort of stopped trying. My biggest problem in games like these is I'm entirely too social. I make too many friends and then people get mad if I nominate or vote them off. Since I was worried that would happen in this game (which it inevitably did anyway) I figured if anyone isn't really warming up to me much, I'm not going to break down the door to communicate. To both of you: If you absolutley HAD TO change one of your moves in the game, what would it be and why? It would have been to maintain the relationships I had with people WITHOUT having to have an alliance. I think what inevitably happens is I think that if I don't make an alliance with people, that they will inevitably vote me off. Then later down the road, I'm usually faced with having to choose between friends. So if I could change anything it would be to be close to people without making/accepting alliance offers. Then, tell me this, if you had to nullify one of the juror's votes, who would it be and why. I would agree and say Drew, there are people who were eliminated in the game who would have fought hard for a jury spot. Drew apparently didn't even vote the entire game. To me, that much of a lack of interest in the game doesn't warrant someone being able to vote for the winner. How on earth could they possibly know what was going on with the game if they weren't participating? In conclusion, tell me why you chose to play in this game as the characters you selected (Ozzy and Will). I chose Will, because I think Will was a good representation of my character. Funloving, outspoken, friendly, lots of determination and heart and................well.................gay. I like that Will had a warm heart, but at the same time, he was a very strategic player. Will was the source of a lot of entertainment in the house, and i knew that part of my strategy would be to liven up the house in an attempt to build some rapport with many of the players, which I feel that Will did. Lastly, he was so darn cute. I will be scoring your responses to each part independent of the other parts on a point scale. Your answer to no one part will affect your score on another. In the end, the person with the highest total will get my vote. I don't know who I am voting for 100%, so this is your chance. MAKE ME VOTE FOR YOU! Remember, I like DETAILED Answers. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! that's interesting. So we're like being graded on our answers, lol. Thanks Eric, you definitely made answering questions a hoot.
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Post by Willi on Jul 9, 2008 1:34:20 GMT -5
To answer your first question, Will does not deserve to win this game because he has been nice and friendly to everyone. Like I said in my opening statement, Will and I dubbed ourselves the Jason and Danielle alliance from BB3. I was the Danielle and did all the dirty work and protected him. Remember when Roddy was voted out? I was the one who fabricated a story saying that you, Eric, and Drew were in an alliance and that Roddy was the bigger threat not Will. I went out of my way to save Will and got us to the finals by taking all the hits along the way. I don't recall anyone saying they wanted to get Will out but I sure as hell know people were gunning for me. I had to play a much harder more competitive game to get myself to where I am whereas I feel Will didn't work nearly as hard. For both the times I was nominated, I won the PoV and saved myself. For every tribal council where I could have been voted out I had immunity around my neck. Will doesn't deserve to win because he was nice to you or friendly with you. The winner deserves to win because they played the game the best and I believe I played a much better game than Will. *Looks at Ozzy Ok Ozzy, i have to be honest when I say that what you wrote REALLY ticked me off. It's nothing I won't get over.....but COME ON! I still think you're great but this is just messed up. You say in the beginning of your speech that you protected me and did all the dirty work. You then say that "I don't recall anyone saying they wanted to get Will out" Then what were you protecting me from? Does that make sense to you? Especially since i was nominated 2 times in the first 4 weeks? And for you to say that you had to try harder in challenges to stay safe makes you more deserving I think is kind of uncool because you MADE yourself a target by lying to so many people. You obviously were a challenge best, but being great at challenges does not mean your game was better. You getting caught in more lies doesn't make you a better player either. I still acknowledge that I wouldn't be here without you, but obviously an alliance works that way. If I played such a horrible game, why do I have IMs from you asking what we should do next? You make it sound like all I did was act nice to people. If you break it down to individual competitions only, you won 6, I won 5, so I obviously was in the with the top pack there. Who was Natalie trying to get out in final 5? Oh, and you didn't need to depend on an alliance? I guess you failed to mention that in the final 3 when I kept you over Ashley. Sorry, I hate to sound so abrasive. I'm going to stop because I'm sure I've said way too much anyway, I was just shocked at you're response.
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Post by Roddy Mancuso on Jul 9, 2008 2:59:56 GMT -5
[faintly from the distance]
Go Will!
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Post by Parvati Shallow on Jul 9, 2008 13:17:52 GMT -5
I have no questions, i know who i will be voting for
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Post by The Host on Jul 9, 2008 13:47:37 GMT -5
Jury you may start casting your votes in your confessionals
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Post by Ashley Massaro on Jul 9, 2008 18:56:21 GMT -5
I find it pretty interesting that Ozzy believes I was carried to the final 3 by Will. Will never won a PoV and saved me. I did all of my own work in this game. Maybe I just got lucky; I'm not sure. Anyways, go Will!
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